#autism belief systems

[rosenfey]

🌿💀 no spoilers but emmrich romance is everything to me as someone who grew up playing in graveyards because she enjoyed the quiet and as someone who has been perhaps oddly fascinated with death ever since she was a child and someone who spent a lot of her academic time researching death rituals and imagery and someone who always cries when she thinks about how we are so different from those who came before and yet so similar and how history is the closest we can get to connecting to the dead and how reading what they left behind is the closest to magic and resurrection and most importantly how incredibly freeing it is to feel seen and understood and to realise that I might be odd and weird for my fascination with death yes but that it is okay and and and-- I need to lay down 💀🌿

[bandofchimeras]

more autism processing/longposting

the more i think about it the more i'm like wait why the fuck have so many people been mean and rude or dismissive towards me??? or just like, acted like my emotions are cringe. i actually don't deserve that, i am kind and nurturing whenever i can be, i do fuck up and get defensive but nothing exceptionally bad. i am friends with people who have done fucked up stuff and i don't really think its a reason to be mean to them? and then realizing, its probably because i come across as nice and naive and accomodating. people are always nicest to me when i am either at my wits end and they can help/save/feel good about themselves, or when i come across as stoic, intimidating and authoritative. people are nice in relation to perceived power.

when i show my genuine weakness, or avoidance, any real vulnerable/not acceptable autistic traits, people respond to their own discomfort with a bullying, blaming or condescending attitude. I know this because i feel the instinct too! Its like a human shared cringe thing. oh this person is acting socially unacceptable, i must restore Balance by pushing them back into Their Place. even if people are being Too Nice or naive - you want them to realize they're not safe, or something. that is to say, people don't usually sit there and maliciously want to make you Feel Small - THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE. these are also huge aspects of White Colonial culture - saviorism, niceness as social currency, keeping people In Line. This is great fucking news. I've wasted so much time in life worrying that people are mean because somehow i do things to deserve that, I am narcissistic or something, and trying to give more and be kinder. When really its an instinctive human social response to discomfort at witnessing someone Play the Game Badly. And that belief I have held is a result of childhood abuse and being told repeatedly that selfishness = punishment.

[sleepyseraph]

Fellas I might be blazed but I have a sneaking suspicion the new Kung Fu Panda 4 movie might not be good.

Let me explain

A certain bastard trumpet player (hint: totally not Irsafil) told me that the movie is gonna be so burnt buns, that they’ll have to call every single animal to the Middle East earlier than schedule. Just so they can witness Po’s public eggsecution. The movie will be his fatal crime and thus excluding every panda ever from the kingdom of heaven.

(Also I think the villain is fine but can fall victim to not being her own character because her inherent ability kinda seems like it’s set up to be for the sake of callbacks and nostalgia. Not to mention its niche has already been fulfilled by Kai whose ability is adjacent to Chameleon imo.)

[devouredead]

As an autistic person, I absolutely believe my autism (as well as the rest of my disabilities and personhood) is bestowed on me as a multi-faceted aspect from an eldritch being. It has its raw beautiful moments where I view it as blessing, divine awareness, near-omniscient, painful love and its moments where it condemns me to anger or fear and knee jerk reaction to literally bite and binds me so my speech is so limited and yet my words that are clawing inside me are so many and that I hear but can't, just will not understand and I absolutely believe it's a curse. And it can be both. My experience of life is that it is both. My point is... You're free to identify your identities however you like. Nobody, least of all other autistics, should be telling you how to feel about or identify your autism. It doesn't matter if it's religious or science fiction or a metaphor that they think is tired or overused or too basic. Make up your own mind. It's okay. It might make other people uncomfortable. That's okay. In the end, in the heart of all hearts... it's not their business. (of course, you can't speak for other people/ and this does not extend to 'autism mommies'; your child's dx is not your own, your autistic child is not your identity to claim. same with siblings, etc)

[tiercel]

Seeing shadows of drama on the wall and turning my gaze away as to prevent my curiosity from luring me in for the kill

[morkaischosen]

see to me that's more of a religious intervention, like a chaplain giving last rites to make sure that you don't die unshriven.

'armchair diagnosis' is a funny term on the face of it because. that's typically where the profession is conducted from, yes

[good-morning-czernobog]

Just learned the word "christopagan". It sounds sexy and also like it would piss a lotta people off. I'm in.

Doesn't change anything I already believed. Just means I have a word for it.

[queerasaurus-rexx]

terfs keep mentioning the % of autistics who are trans/nb and that we're 'brainwashed'

and because i'm an asshole, i decided to look into why so many autistic folks are trans/nb. it's not an inaccurate statement, at least the first half, but terfs lie through their teeth so i decided to get to the scientific root of it.

the answer blew my fucking mind.

the study on gender and autism i found said two very specific things about autistic people: we are more mentally resistant to things like social conditioning and binarism. we like our secret third things, y'know.

an excerpt:

“The finding that non-binary identities are most elevated seems to support hypotheses focussed on autistic resistance to social conditioning, which are consistent with existing evidence of the same effect with respect to self-description of sexual orientation. Perhaps elevated rates of trans identity in autism might result from a rejection of the binary cisgenderist norm, which combined with a below-typical concern for social norms could promote the disclosure of the identity.”

94% of autistics surveyed for that paper identified themselves as non-binary.

other studies have found autistic people have higher levels of critical thinking, and require more evidence to maintain or convert to a belief system (hence why many of us eventually fall away from religion) than allistic people.

which means, at least from my perspective, that:

a) the 'brainwashing' terfs are accusing the trans community of inflicting on autistic folks would likely not even work if they tried.

b) the current binary definition of gender flies directly against embedded autistic modes of thinking to begin with.

you cannot brainwash someone into thinking something they already believe.

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

By: Andrew Doyle

Published: Oct 14, 2024

It was hardly a plague of locusts, but it was disruptive nonetheless. During the annual LGB Alliance conference at the Queen Elizabeth II centre in Westminster on Friday afternoon, teenage activists unleashed thousands of crickets into the auditorium. The inconvenience was only temporary. The crowd simply relocated to another room and the event went on as before.

As those responsible were apprehended, many people were struck by just how young and posh they were. By this point, it should surprise precisely no-one that anti-gay activism in its current form is a predominately bourgeois pursuit. The symbolism of the crickets was, of course, deliberate. It was an attempt to dehumanise those in attendance, to suggest that they were akin to parasites, vermin, spreaders of disease, a common trope of those who seek to demonise minorities.

The perpetrators were children, and so it would be unwise to speculate too much on their motives. It is likely they were being manipulated by the group that has claimed responsibility, calling itself “Trans Kids Deserve Better”. As Bev Jackson, co-founder of LGB Alliance said on my show last night:

“Trans kids do deserve better. They deserve better than to be told lies that that they might have been born in the wrong body. They deserve better than to be told that these hormones and surgeries that they are clambering for will somehow solve all their problems. Many are on the autism spectrum. Many are struggling with their sexual orientation. We know that. They deserve better than to be told that we hate them. And they deserve better than to be labelled trans when they’re going through all the turbulence of adolescence, when your feelings about yourself are in constant flux.”

Irrespective of the intentions of the teenagers involved, this was anti-gay activism. To attack a group of lesbian, gay and bisexual people who have assembled to discuss the ongoing threats to their civil rights could hardly be defined in any other way. Likewise, to refer to groups such as LGB Alliance as “anti-trans”, “transphobic” or “hateful” - as activist media outlets such as the Metro and the Guardian have been known to do - is also an anti-gay strategy. In order to address a problem, one needs to label it accurately.

Gender identity ideologues are, by definition, anti-gay. They are campaigning to force their pseudo-religious belief-system onto the rest of society, one that claims that same-sex attraction is a myth, and that a mysterious spiritual sense of “gender” is the defining feature of homosexuality. Even if they have convinced themselves that they are “pro-trans” and “compassionate” and “progressive”, the implementation of their demands would result directly in the demolition of gay rights. And so “anti-gay activism” is not only an accurate description, it also cuts to the heart of what is at stake.

The trans activist movement in its current form is dominated by this belief in a material and stable “gender identity”, what one trans campaigner explained to me as an “essence of male or female”. This is a departure from the theories of Judith Butler, who posits that “gender identity” is an illusion created performatively and repetitively in accordance with societal expectations. For all their deification of Butler, the trans rights movement is insistent that she is wrong on this key point, and that an individual is “born trans” when there is a misalignment of body and “sexed soul” (to borrow Helen Joyce’s phrase).  

This belief is wholly incompatible with the struggle for gay rights, which has always been predicated on the notion that there exist a minority of people who are innately attracted to their own sex. Activist groups such as Stonewall now argue that “homosexuality” is based on gender rather than sex, meaning that it is possible for a man to be a lesbian. He may have been born male (or “assigned male at birth” to borrow the voguish parlance), but his “gender identity” is female and this should be the salient factor when it comes to sexual orientation.

It is no easy feat to explain the contortions of logic on display here. Lesbian dating apps are now replete with men who claim to be women, many fully bearded and bepenised. Likewise, sex clubs for gay men now routinely admit women who have had their breasts removed and believe themselves to be male. The gay male hookup app Grindr even prohibits its users from filtering out women. As the company’s website puts it:

“When designing gender settings on Grindr, it was important to us to not further perpetuate discrimination and harm for the trans and nonbinary community. For this reason, we allow filtering based on gender - you can specify that you want to see men or women - but this will include all men or all women, because trans men are men and trans women are women.”

In other words, a company that has made a fortune from gay men’s sexuality is now shaming its customers for being gay.

The situation is so confusing that we now have mainstream celebrities such as Billy Bragg effectively campaigning against gay rights without realising it. He is not homophobic (as far as I’m aware) and yet he is assiduously promoting a movement whose end goal is the eradication of homosexuality. Bragg’s 1991 song Sexuality included the lyric: “Just because you’re gay, I won’t turn you away”. Perhaps a more appropriate version would be: “Just because you’re gay, I’ll have you surgically corrected in order to better conform to heterosexual paradigms”, although it wouldn’t scan or rhyme.

This is why to grow up gay in 2024 is considerably more risky than during the time of Section 28 in the 1980s. We have gay conversion therapy being promoted by the NHS in the form of “gender-affirming care”, and children who are gender non-conforming (and therefore statistically far more likely to be homosexual in later life) are being medicalised and shamed for their orientation. Moreover, the very organisations that were originally established to fight for gay rights are now actively working against the interests of gay people.

To release bags of insects into a gathering of homosexuals is the kind of tactic we might once have seen from neo-Nazis and extreme religious fundamentalists. Just because those responsible now claim to be “on the right side of history” does not justify their behaviour or make them any less regressive. These are the new reactionaries, espousing a particularly toxic form of anti-gay ideology because it has the approval of the corporate, media, political and managerial class. Homophobia never went away, it just took on a fresh disguise.

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[ Source. ]

Gay men are not allowed to filter out women from their dating pool.

[purpledemonlilyposting]

I also kind of want to address people being mad at me for "wanting Lily to still have a platform". No it isn't to make money off her, ever since the I Wani Hug That Gator streams lead to me becoming the "unofficial official voice of Olivia" I think I've proven people come to my channel for me.

And there's a few things you gotta understand about me: I'm autistic, I've lived with a severe anxiety disorder my entire life, and I'm a staunch utilitarian secular humanist.

For my cognitive and mental issues I have a system of thought, logic and control in place to regulate these things. I have to adopt certain disciplined modes of behavior to keep my anxiety and anger issues under tight control and in order to avoid the magical thinking that often accompanies autism. This coupled with medication and copious amounts of cannabis is what makes a Sai.

Yes on the surface and when I perform on stream I'm a ha ha funny goofy goober. I'd love to actually be able to be that carefree all the time.

I don't usually get into politics or social philosophy because that's just not what my platform is for and I don't think I have the knowledge or expertise to speak on it at length. But when it comes to my principles my goal is always to apply them evenly. I fiercely believe you can't bend your ethics just because you don't like someone or find their actions reprehensible. Even the worst criminal in the world still needs to be given a fair trial in our justice system and a defense lawyer. If we want a governing or social system to work it has to be consistent.

And I want to be consistent in my belief that robbing someone of an income over personal issues with them is wrong. That's a terrible precedent to set.

However, once Lily copyright struck Anthony and I it was basically out of my hands. She had done and continued to do something that could get her channel terminated. That would be on her and not on me. He and I have tirelessly exhausted every avenue we could to try and get YouTube to investigate her. These things aren't going to happen overnight if they happen at all.

[chaos-and-ink]

Do you see the moon boys as autistic? And if so do you have any autistic headcanons for them? :)

YES. Okay, so a system cannot have a disorder the body doesn't. As ASD is a neurodevelopmental condition it affects how the brain is wired which means each alter would be autistic, they may just present differently. So this is how I think each of them present their autism.

STEVEN: Steven is the most obviously autistic alter. Because he didn't front often, his masking skills aren't very developed which means he displays a lot of classic symptoms and features such as:

Unusual body language, often holds his arms in odd ways, walks on his toes, keeps his elbows bent, doesn't make eye contact, displays 'raptor hands', etc.

Special Interest in Ancient Egypt. I mean he literally is learning Hieroglyphics and owns a literal library of books and knows everything about it. Infodumping brings him lots of joy.

Need for routine. Calling his mum every morning, feeding Gus, checking the tape, restraint, sand, etc. He wants things to be very particular and hates when anything changes.

Lack of social skills. Doesn't connect with others very well. Especially seen when he continues to talk to his coworkers when they don't want to talk to him. He doesn't recognize or respond to their tone or body language. He's also very hesitant and anxious in social settings. The only real friend he has until later into the series is Crawley and it's likely because the performer can't talk back or react to Steven. It's often easier to 'talk at people' instead of with them.

Strong moral code and very loyal to his beliefs and the need to be correct. Steven is very straight forward about his beliefs and wants to be on the right side of things. Hence him being vegan and the whole 'killing babies, you guys are just cool with that, yeah???' scene along with when he tells Donna the posters are incorrect and when he tells Dylan they should be selling figs not candy.

Stimming like flapping his hands, rocking, pacing, fidgeting and playing with things like Rubiks cubes.

MARC: Marc learned to mask very quickly in his house hold so he doesn't outwardly display many traits. Instead he experiences a lot of burn out, depression and anxiety due to trying to cover up his ASD symptoms. But he does still have a few that can't be masked like:

Flat tone and lack of facial expressions. Rarely smiles or shows emotions other than anger.

Blunt, often tactless or rude, and thinks very logical. he has a hard time understanding other peoples emotions and accommodating for them.

Special Interest in Tomb Busters, it was the main thing that brought him comfort. he'd watch it so often that he had the entire script memorized and would often forget to eat, sleep, or drink because he was busy fixating on it.

Doesn't connect with new people and doesn't show an interest in them. He doesn't feel a need to socialize.

Gets overwhelmed quickly which leads to melt downs, shut downs, and anger out bursts which caused him to be labeled with 'temper problems'

JAKE: We really don't know too much about Jake so I only noticed one thing really which was:

No interest in other people or social settings. He prefers to be by himself doing his own thing rather than in a group or socializing.

[69constellationsinatrenchcoat]

✨Welcome to 69 Constellations* in a Trenchcoat✨

*alters (our increasingly misnamed system blog, we don't have 69 alters.)

Welcome to CC's little corner of the internet. We go by Constellation, or the Consellation Collective. Formerly 69consellationsinatrenchcoat (lmao dumbass typo) & 69ottersinatrenchcoat

We have medically recognised dissociative identity disorder (DID), diagnosed PTSD, autism, ADHD, and a variety of chronic illnesses… we're a bit of a medical problem.

We tend to post a mix of things we enjoy and informative content.

.°˖✧ Posting ���˖°.

topics: DID, OSDD & other CDDs, mental health, psychology, disability & neurodiversity

Side topics are on another blog

We'll try to usually sign off in the tags with "posted by [emoji]"

.°˖✧ System Info ✧˖°.

We go by Constellation and use they/them pronouns. We're bodily an adult, bi, polyam (though we just say queer), and as far as we're aware, an INFJ 1w2 125 overall.

We post in British English, usually fkgkjgfkjk. Pls, stop saying we're spelling things wrong just because we spell colour with a 'U'.

.°˖✧ Syscourse ✧˖°.

If discussing system origins, we prefer to have measured and respectful discussions, or to avoid it all together.

We recognise that experiences with multiplicity and plurality vary drastically, and that spiritual multiplicity exists and is recognised in the DSM-V-TR, as are DID and OSDD.

Multiplicity is a controversial topic within psychological communities and that there are varying opinions on the existence of non-trauma sourced multiples.

We avoid the 'fandom' attitude to DID as we believe that we should not be watering system experience to the belief that it's fun to have alters, as it invalidates negative experiences. However, there is joy in this disorder.

As with every community, certain things shared in multiplicity spaces are completely false, and we disagree with on a fundamental level. For example, system hopping does not exist (alters, created by one mind cannot magically appear in another's mind unless that system has split an introject [factive] based upon that alter), selling alters is wrong, impossible and immoral, etc

To have DID, individuals must reach certain diagnostic criteria, including showing amnesia between personality states. Some clinicians argue that for a diagnosis of DID to be valid, one must also reach diagnostic criteria for PSTD, meaning you can't have DID without traumatic experiences - however, that does not mean plurality doesn't exist outside DID.

We want to see some solid research into all plural experiences (including those who report non traumagenic origins) but unfortunately there aren't many people doing the research.

There's enough evidence to suggest that plural experiences do exist outside of trauma and that suggests that something is psychologically 'unusual' with those who report plurality outside of trauma.

Traumagenic plurality and various non-traumagenic plural experiences are two different things, however there is overlap. Creating separate language for traumagenic multiples, and endogenic multiples is something we believe may help to create clearer divisions within the communitie; limiting confusion between when a systems is speaking about traumagenic experience, or endogenic experience.

A vast majority of young teens who identify as endogenic or plural without trauma are misinterpreting experiences as a teen by placing labels on things that may perpetuate harmful beliefs. We don't wish to dismiss anyone's experiences by stating that teens cannot be systems (they absolutely can be), however, certain parts of the online system communities, especially system related discords, can be harmful to developing brains and developing personalities.

That being said, we are a diagnosed DID system, and the majority of our posting will be about our experiences with DID, and we will, mostly, interact with trauma based posting. :)

TLDR: our syscourse stance is complicated and each alter in our system has different opinions on it — but basically we believe that endogenic systems do experience multiplicity, just in a different way to disorders like DID, OSDD and P-DID.

Remember, your brain doesn't finish the majority of its development until you're in your mid-twenties!

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You are here with the intent to be homophobic, transphobic, queerphobic, sexist, etc. Please don't be an ass.

You are under the age of 16. This blog occasionally contains sexual content (no visuals), experiences and triggering content, and we want to keep you safe. We aren't entirely happy with minors interacting but, 17+ is fine.

Please do not interact with any of our content if you post screenshots to r/systemscringe. Yes, sometimes people do shit for attention, but mocking them publicly is not okay.

Our DMs are open :)

.°˖✧ Links to original posts we're proud of and/or want to revisit ✧˖°.

disclosing you're a CDD system can make you a target

lying to keep your system safe

hardware vs software; mental illness edition

our CDD flag redesign

abusive ppl

second hand gender euphoria

sometimes accessibility is an electric toothbrush

octocon (create an alter to get started)

answer to "you don't have 60 people in your head, you just like LARPing"

DID books

why it's so hard to find resources for OSDD 1b/1a

more on OSDD 1b/1a

"diagnosis" a poem

DID is more than alters

grumpy sock puppet (DID hydra)

We made our pfp and banner...and made a DID flag!

We try our best to include alt/descriptive text on our posts, and where possible we will link any elements/images we've used (usually in alt text) <3

[the80srewinders]

We used to be pro endo, but we're not anymore. We've learned, we've grown. We've seen bad things from both sides- anti endo and pro endo. We took time away from the online plural community to do immense research into endogenic systems and have concluded there's no proof they exist, and the only proof they give into their existence is opinion or studies that don't involve brain imaging. They never cite real medical sources or scientific sources, and since plurality is neurodivergence, endogenic plurality would still be considered disordered. There is no such thing as non disordered plurality, even if endogenic systems are real. The endo community largely spreads misinformation by saying non disordered plurality is real. The brain does not just make alters, headmates, whatever just to make them. There has to be a reason, and if endogenic systems are real, then that reason is they're neurodivergent. Which is disordered. There's no such thing as "non disordered autism" and the same applies to systems. So the pro endo community lack of scientific proof and linking non medical articles is enough proof they're probably not real. Endos also are taking over the plural community, when its focus should be on DID/OSDD because its a real disorder with a century of misinformation to debunk and lots of stigma, the people who have it suffered immense trauma as children and have struggles in their daily lives singlets won't understand. Instead of making a strong tight knit community for DID/OSDD systems, literal childhood trauma survivors, endos and their supporters have made the whole plural community a place of instability, fights and side taking. They've made it into everything a safe place for neurodivergence shouldn't be, especially for a posttraumatic and highly stigmatized disorder. The community that should be helping DID/OSDD systems and ending stigma, ending stereotypes, spreading facts is damaging the DID/OSDD community, and if singlets think it exists. We have no proof endos are real, but they've came and invaded our community and ruined it. Now endos want to invade other spaces not even related to plurality- autism spaces, fandom spaces and lgbt spaces. They also steal DID/OSDD terms and other cultural religious terms and even invade religious spaces or beliefs with their "everything is plural! god is a system!" tricks. Sure, the anti endos who choose endos to bully and bait are toxic, but most endos we've seen are just as toxic, just not by blatant harassment. Endos are for appropriation, invasion and "pluralizing" everything. They also damage the DID/OSDD community in ways I'll have to write a guide or ted talk on. I may be neutral as far as if i think endos are real, but I'm definitely anti endo in the sense that i am against the endo community for their spread of misinformation and damage to the DID/OSDD community.

[blackoutsys]

anyways i feel like i should mention

im not against getting professionally diagnosed

it's just with current USA election results, and the way both the medical and legal system treats black people makes me incredibly wary to personally seek out diagnosis at this time.

we also live in a very conservative state and have no current means to get out [as we are disabled and job opportunities are very limited given what we can't handle, we also don't feel safe getting a driver's license due to dissociation]

i know there's generally a huge expectation in the online CDD community that you will eventually seek out diagnosis because for a lot of people, there's a belief that it's the only way you'll receive help for having one.

however i do personally feel like most of this opinion often comes from white systems. while CDDs are notoriously difficult to diagnose and everyone has their struggles, a system who is bodily white or white passing, will likely still, have an easier time getting a diagnosis over a black system. [i'm not trying to discount the years it can take to get a diagnosis, i've seen plenty of people talk about how it's taken them 5 or 10+ years to get diagnosed properly because either doctors don't want to diagnose it, or they file it under something else]

like with ADHD and Autism, the diagnosis rates are low in black afab people because doctors just don't want to run tests, and racism will also feed into their unwillingness to do so.

i'm just really tired of people talking about diagnosis being the only way to receive care for having a CDD. because not everyone is in a safe position to get that diagnosis

i'm sure im not the only black system that feels this way. in a lot of communities that form around having specific disorders the most vocal online opinion tends to be from white folk and it ends up bulldozing POC

[theverynothumankai]

NONHUMANS AND ALTERHUMANS AND ALTERBEINGS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN !!! ASSEMBLE !!!

i have made a nonhuman discord server.

who it is for:

questioning alterhumans/nonhumans of any kind that still have zero clue what the hell is going on yet

physical nonhumans/alterhumans of any kind

transspecies creatures

holotheres

zoanthropes, lycanthropes, etc.

otherlinkers

otherfixers

otherkin

therians

otherhearted

fictionflickers/otherflickers/etc.

any creatures who fall under the nonhuman/alterhuman label

cladononhumans, sunnonhumans, cambinonhumans, etc.! all of ya!

systems who are mainly nonhumans/alterhumans, or just have any headmate/alter/etc. who falls under that umbrella and wishes to join!

spiritual nonhumans/alterhumans

non-spiritual nonhumans/alterhumans

neurodivergent nonhumans/alterhumans

those who don’t know or give a fuck what the origins of their nonhumanity/alterhumanity are

if that sounds cool as fuck, then PLEASE come check it out (READ WHO IS NOT ALLOWED FIRST PLEASE FULLY AND COMPLETELY OR YOU WILL BE BLOCKED AND THERE WILL BE DRAMA!!!)

who is NOT allowed:

those who are not nonhuman/alterhumans and are not questioning if they are under those umbrellas

OFFENDING zoophiles, maps, pedophiles, paraphiles, etc. (non-offending who are in recovery are alright)

anti-furries

obviously anti-ANY-nonhumans/alterhumans

those against endo/non-traumagenic systems/etc.

radqueers, radfems, etc.

transid (transspecies are most definitely allowed though!!)

queerphobes of any kind (transphobes, homophobes, arophobes, acephobes, xenophobes, etc.!)

those against neopronouns, xenopronouns, emojiself pronouns, nounself pronouns, etc.

sexualizes minors, age-regressors, and pet-regressors

ableists of any kind (this includes those who believe in “narc abuse”, those who demonize those with personality disorders, those who think autism or adhd [or neurodivergencies like those] are not disabilities, those who invalidate someone’s experiences because they haven’t experienced it before, those who do not recognize invisible disabilities as disabilities or say shit like “it’s not real/you’re faking/stop being dramatic/etc.” to those with invisible disabilities, etc.)

those who romanticize or demonize any disorder, mental illness, disability, or neurodivergency

racists

sexists

TERFs

SWERFs

those who are gonna hate on others religions or beliefs

those who support JK Rowling (no, not those who read HP and all, most of yall HATE her anyways and are queer yourselves, just anyone who personally supports HER and HER views and so on, yall can like her books)

proshippers

those who are pro-ED, pro-SH, pro-SI, etc. (those who struggle with those things are allowed and have a safe space here <3 but those who encourage those things are NOT allowed here whatsoever and never will be)

anti-reality shifters (and within that umbrella, that also means those who are anti-permashifters, anti-respawners, and are anti-those who shift to realities where they’re different races)

those against self-diagnosis with research

those against Palestine/those who are pro-genocide/pro-war/etc.

those who can’t respect someone’s boundaries

those against “contradictory” labels, like turigirls, lesboys, mspec monos, gaybians, etc.

literally anyone who starts drama on purpose and shit like that, or can’t have a decent, mature argument/conversation with someone

anyone else i deem problematic

okay, that’s all!!! here is the link to the server (lasts for 7 days)!! look forward to seeing yall <333

[drifloonz]

nah yeah i agree w this, mostly outside of some things and some smaller things like personal interps and headcanons bc. yea that changes from person to person *

*( eg him being walled off post incident due to being exiled by pallet town or maybe kanto in general / they just forgot about him and he slowly gets walled off and rots alone is a lot more narratively ironic and tragic to me ).

speak your shit i suppose, the worst that happens is i dont respond because i dont agree or because idk i just didnt have energy ( <- common ) . i might stop past this point though just to save my followers Huge ass textposts which i already make a lot of and bc im running out of things to say, but that also might be bc 6 am my energys shot and i have not gone to bed. something is, as usual, wrong with me.

and bc there is a line i have between 'personal interpretation(s) i have based on canon' vs 'canon' vs 'canon but it kind of sucks so i dont think about it too hard' that cannot really change for me. but handshake emoji bc yea similar ideas on stevens character

also yea steven feels like so many canon pokemon characters in a blender. AZ the most obvious, leon due to similarities, and like... alder ( unova champion, volcarona died, started wandering in his grief ) . All of these together can give you One (1) steven.

A LOT OF FUCKING TEXT BELOW.

i wrote this at 7:10 am and is mostly an excuse to ramble, not all points will be hit probably some will be hit multiple times i am very tired and dont have much more to add but i fucking love rambling about strangled red, strangled, how much doors open and the remakes suck, and what they mean to me

anyways - ironically i think steven is too selfish to let miki do it. steven wants to be the one to kill him, steven is the one to likely think that mike is a piece of shit and a bastard - and depending on your interpretation of steven, he mightve thought mike did it on purpose ( which im 50/50 on it adds some spice but needs to be written well ). he is the one who feels fulfillment from this more than miki to me, and his selfishness is kind of like... a part of him i dont see often explored like that?

like, he is so caught up in his own hatred and grief ( probably worsened by missingno ) that he doesn't actually really think about the fact he has miki back yet - like you said, he doesnt even really process it other than her just kinda being there now. killing mike feels like something he also just, has to do imo in his minds eye. because it's ironic and fitting to him, because he wants to, once again missingno probably not helping, possibility that he thinks mike 'killed' her on purpose, etc etc, bunch of reasons you could come up with ( i like their relationship being kind of strained pre-incident too - not abusive or anything just like... awkwardly Strained sometimes which wouldnt help ).

although him doing this is not the intention or implication intended , but theres a degree of separation i have between canon and Implied headcanon i have just based on actual shit ab steven - thats also just how it goes with a lot of creepypastas! good baseline, and a lot of implications you can draw from since theyre all really just short stories.

either way, like you said, steven never even celebrated miki being back much. he got her back and then just went straight back to him and mikes house. on foot. slowly, agonizingly, from the pokemon tower to pallet town, which is a uhhh. a Walk, for sure. guy with long ass legs. also why i like to think he paces a lot and just goes for walks when stressed as a headcanon bc.. lol.

or, maybe hes scared of something happening to her or just doesnt want her to do that idk but that has far less ground. i could see it as a shoddy additional reasoning as to why in his own mind but idk if hes mentally there enough to have too many second thoughts when hes pretty deep into . yknow. s!3v3n.

strangled red is a tragedy. steven was someone pushed into his worst, a town and region looking up to him and respecting him so much suddenly pitying him which he does not like based on the actual text ( to be fair he just turns them all down but i imagine he has some resent for being a legend turned into a pity party for all of the citizens especially since, yk, hes grieving, he wanted to be a role model and someone to look up to - at least in how i interpret it. he likely just wants to be left the fuck alone in his grief. misery loves company. but steven probably doesnt, because in my mind he would just like to slowly die from his own neglect so he could see her again. that mindset Would fuck you up and does which once again wouldnt help. )

writingwise, s!3v3n is fine in strangled. hes a videogame easter egg in context of the universe. i do actually like strangled, its a good and short little easter egg in-game styled creepypasta.

i once again just think how hes written in doors open isnt the best, makes no sense in like one case ( why the fuck is he talking about 2011 what the fuck was the angle here ), and is kind of like... i get the angle. he's just objectively not written as well as in strangled or SR, i think. or interestingly, i guess. he's just... yea. whatever. That is a guy that exists. as much as i shit on doors open i dont hate it existing because it is at least funny to see steven having a tantrum when you, dont have his fucking charizard? Because why would you...???? thanks steven.

this is due to me actually like rereading it. i have several times for reference but properly processing it is like... this isnt awful and i get the angle and approach. but it isnt good. It is Not good. i think the rest of the 'story' in DO just being confusing makes it stand out all that more which is prob why i specifically harp on s!3v3ns character sucking ass in it, especially comparatively.

bc yea. of course hes different in strangled red vs strangled or doors open. but hes better in strangled so its just... confusing. idk. no way to explain it in anything that doesnt feel like an excuse, and a lot of Doors opens weird contrivacies reek of 'this is like, clearly not written to be competent or entirely connecting with sr or strangled'.

and the story doesnt make sense and sucks. which makes his character suck because then all of his reason for doing the shit he impliededly does is out of the window. and smr admitting to it just being like lost silver crossover fanfic because he wanted to just yk. confirms that. has potential doesnt do anything with it which i dont expect it to its a 2010 story but damn.

essentially i dont consider it canon even if it was at a point intended to be because nothing in it is mentioned, makes sense, or ultimately... matters. it is write-offable other than any little interesting tidbit randomly mentioned in narration. thats really just it.

strangled does it much better with s!3v3n for me. doesnt talk too much, when he does its about miki ( of course ), and thats about it. also he isnt literally screaming in all caps, which to be fair, there isnt a win condition for his fight in strangled for him to have the ability to, but him like... yelling L I K E T H I S is more interesting. i sound insane talking about the smallest details of a pokepasta like this.

i think the way doors open fucks this up in my opinion is the fact his name seems to uncorrupt when you beat him, but then he goes back to talking about how much he wants to kill you. which... yea whatever hes a creepypasta villain. but then the bunch of numbers and. Yea. theres a lot of reasons people dont take doors open seriously outside of small details you kind of Cant when s!3v3ns talking about equations that equal 2011. mathematician ... Truly, what did s!3v3n do in 2011 . Other than. Be in doors open . sorry thats just still funny to me.

i do not disagree with the angle s!3v3ns characterization is going with ( hes kind of just insane and still losing his mind likely more than before ) i just think s!3v3n is a badly written tropey character compared to his more nuanced take in strangled red, which of course, are different periods in his life, but idk. and then strangled is also a good take to me. DO just is a flop. you can write an insane kind of power maniac who wants to take control of his life back and is kind of losing his mind at all times better. you can do it so much better. He is a guy with insane depression and so many fucking issues and seeing these issues explored would be nice.

strangled red once again did that but idk small examples of like... How unused his house looks maybe. how hes been dealing with everything, or, how hes failing to deal with... really anything. how is he alive? is he being kept alive? Is he eating shitty ramen noodles and drinking awful tap water? Who knows you decide ( its the third answer for me bc its funny and realistic ).

but once again, the trilogy was written backwards practically, so. you know. lot of it probably comes from that and 'slapping together shit that sounds cool sometimes so its literally just inconsistent Because of that probably'

although this extends into headcanons that draw from the text. which i love and prefer bc yea . this is a creepypasta written in 2011 .

idk i just wish he was more morally grey than an insane villainous trope. i wish it had more depth to it other than hes screaming yelling and killing people. his obsession with miki is fun but it doesnt really, go anywhere??? other than vague things.

i just think all in all, strangled red is character exploration and at most a tragedy - this is the most interesting exploration of stevens character, his transformation into s!3v3n, and leaves s!3v3n up in the air as to how he acts or really... you know, is post missingno, post miki-revival . it cuts to black before mike dies but its clear that he does. its clear that in the moment steven probably enjoyed it. did he regret it ? once again, up to interpretation. what did he do after? get exiled by pallet town because they were probably scared of him or slowly forgot about both of them! maybe the elite four wiped everything about him from the record? who knows! its fun to think about and that is all i ever think about, is the smaller questions like that.

anyways autism aside. to. more autism so ig autism not aside.

s!3v3n did not need to be explored or explained past strangled red, to me. even though... yk, strangled reds the last one actually written. which once again prequel syndrome makes things really weird because you write this guy and then hes crazy different in his two other stories which is, intentional but then just feels like an entirely different guy and hes. so shallow and one note and UUUUUGGGHGHHHHH dont get me started. and then the remakes do not do anything about this because structurally, they are very different, so they kind of cant, and hes so different in a still bad and tropey way.

hes boring.

hes fucking boring thats all . hes boring bland plain hes the same. hes a unique character to me, the depths of what you would do for your loved one in a time of anguish ( even if its a pet ), and then that gets dumbed down to being a similar trope when you can do... more. idk. i like s!3v3n conceptually a lot. i do not like canon s!3v3n at all solely due to the way he like... talks.

this is not going to change im sorry ive had 2 years to think on it it isnt doing anything interesting with it to me. i cannot care for him. any way smr will write him will not make me care for him given the direction in the remakes is similarly bad - it is basically the same flavor of s!3v3n as s!3v3n in doors open. i do not care about the canon implications or intentions of him in doors open and i dont think smr did either. its not really the intent or way its meant to come across it is solely just that the way its executed is the most... nothingburger thing to me.

Hes fine in strangled mostly because he like, makes sense there? short story, he doesnt talk too much, not much to fuck up. i like strangled, it's neat. doors open just kind of sucks.

again, DO is just not a good story and makes literally 0 fucking sense and has no merit outside of its little fun facts, so im gunna stop mentioning it . or going into detail ab it bc i made my point that Didnt need to really be made bc nobody really disagrees with 'DO is not really adding anything or a good story outside of a few cool things'

strangled red alone and strangled... as an extension ( or vice versa given release dates ) is fine and that was all that i needed doors open is just kinda. there.

this is disjointed as fuck because i cant really respond to these point by point bc i have to scroll a lot, but miki to me is emblematic of literally everything steven wants - yea, hes dependant on her. shes the way he gets kind of... anything. and shes very just- outright stated to be special. evolving early, being more resistant to her weaknesses, etc.

her being a sort of unique super strong charizard, her being how steven attained so much of what he did, yea i would go. insane over that too.

idk where to put this where it fits in more naturally i dont personally like the 'missingno/miki/whatever' needs souls idea. once again kind of removes stevens agency or a lot of the intrigue behind him straight up murking him if its implied that miki needs mike ( or.. souls i guess? ) to stay alive, and i think him killing mike due to him being in the absolute worse emotional state at that time + missingno is just fun to me. Fun in a morbid way.

missingno is its own whole Can, but it cant be more of a plot device to me other than passively driving steven more insane simply by existing, because its a glitch that is not supposed to exist and that breaks the game world and Would break you mentally the longer youre around it. if you give missingno more agency that becomes a character and not a plot device akin to a Deal with the devil thing which is a weird thing to do with missingno if not handled well. making missingno do more than revive and puppet miki also feels way too much. but that is personal ive seen good interps of botha these.

but thats a personal thing. i like to think missingno puppets that thing like a husk and that actual 'miki' is Not in there, or is but like barely ( a tiny wisp of life maybe ). not that steven really processes it.

i personally relate to steven as a character. this is one of the reasons hes like... kind of a coping character to a degree, alongside coming into my life around A Lot Of Personal Shit. ive related to him in my worst breakdowns or in intrusive thoughts or like... not anger issues but just the need to vent out rage sometimes. i understand him Deeply, i can see myself doing the same things as him in his shoes ( also why i project him having similar mental issues because. yea. Bpd ).

maybe not swimming to a wholeass island id die but you get it, especially given missingnos possible contribution ( even though its like... entirely fanon afaik other than some small bits you could get from implications i do like it bc yk its a game glitch of course that things going to fuck him mentally up worse than he already is simply by existing around him. )

either way, for personal interpretation especially on my blog specifically, i like to write him slowly mellowing out as time passes.

he just has to live with it. live with deep, debilitating depression, thinking about things, wondering where things went 'wrong', and wondering if miki even is like... her, herself. ( even if some people would consider this ooc, i think its a neat character exploration that when hes had enough time alone with his own thoughts and nobody else around to properly stop and think he begins to realize this- if he like, lives that long cuz him uhhh. killing himself would be in character to some degree though because imagine living like that jfc. just. not by fucking cop. but if he didnt... idk i just like modern era cryptid steven whos still very unstable but not to a murderous degree and hes just kind of really depressed along with other things. Guy who throws frozen pizza into his barely working oven or like ramen idk ).

guy who just becomes numb to his depression and The Horrors and lives life lying in bed wondering how he got there. tending to miki and barely tending to his own body at best.

also i think people understate how hard the society around him probably just fucked with his mental state too. of course he would not just Get Over miki dying if he got better care and therapy but. yea. some people just didnt talk to him after the fact! and all he gets is pity that, in my experience, makes you want to fucking die if you get pity from random strangers or people you barely know when you are having A Very Bad ( depressive ) Episode.

overall i agree with you, especially about people just seeing s!3v3n as like a psycho killer hot yaoiguy or whatever ( he doesnt even kill that many people and i dont see him as innately murderous, just often bad time bad place bad mental state ), which is boring and defeats the purpose of so much of his character, because you have to remember how he like... got there for a lot of the context. he isn't just that at all. i just had an excuse to ramble again LOL

kinda hard to write proper analysis about it given the way the trilogy was released and written and just bc i do read a lot about it but a lot of what i write for steven is. you know, far past everything happening. numb and depressed, too mentally tired to really go insane to the same degree, not processing a lot of what he did in the past and when he does he Tweaks ( s!3v3n ), etc.

i need to stop doing this and start actually writing the things asked for in my askbox . i will lock in some day. uhhh if you want more read my other, plentiful deranged rambles and headcanons about steven i dont want to rewrite everything ive ever written ab him bc id forget what ive posted and what i havent but yea

( fair warning; i do write x readers sometimes and that was the og purpose of this blog (still is but not all the time) bc i write steven in the context of like, hyplull interp where hes 18 and then it just expanded. so post incident post Every story ( or at least sr ) steven where he's an adult and the just kind of depressed existing in his house kanto/pallet town cryptid that just kind of is there and nobody mentions him bc its fun to write. )

tldr strangled red good i like steven . Did you gusy know i . Like steven and strangled red and his Tragedy and h. (coughs up blood, falls over and dies )

i didnt want to rb again bc. long ass post. but i dont personally agree with the 's!3v3n / steven was always evil' thing bc its such a boring character motiv. smr just is not good at writing s!3v3n ( in general but just in a compelling or interesting way ), and also strangled red was the last one written where he actually was like, sympathetic. the 'backstory/prequel' written last curse tbh. itd be nice if the remakes were just faithful rewrites so theyd fix this or make it a lil better but.. yk.

i think missingno did enable these thoughts but in the sense that it made the intrusive thoughts and his worse gut reactions and instincts grow and grow until he just, did them. you know like when you say ' i want to kill someone ' but you dont really mean it you're just really fucking upset at them and want to take it out on something physically or mentally but cant? things like that. it makes the violent static in your brain grow and grow until you act without thinking, i feel. just by its aura and by existing.

but i also think interpretations where its 'entirely missingnos fault' aren't great either because it removes stevens agency as a character and also makes missingno even more of a plot device than it already is - which isn't even bad in strangled red but it Is a plot device.

he still strangled mike even if he was coerced into it. did he regret it after or not care and double down? YOU decide!

( i know miki doing it is the actual canon implication and yk. literal canon as confirmed by smr, but thats also fucking boring and lame. killing your brother with your bare hands via strangulation goes so much harder and is more thematically fitting. Thank you hyplull for that interpretation god bless )